You know, all those words in the book are dead, but you give life when you read it. Once you read it, these words come into action and go straight into our heads, and it`s a challenge, all the ideas we had before, all these concepts. It is the fight against this superstition that we create, and it is the fight against fanaticism that we have to defend our own lives. When you read it for the second time, you are really confronted with many of these superstitions. You`re a little less fanatical, and now you can go even further in this book, because this book is really like a mirror that reflects you. With simple four chords, it reflects you so beautiful, and it`s not really important, not even the language you speak, because it`s been translated into 40 different languages now, which means it`s all over the world, and it goes deep into everyone who reads this book. It is beyond all domestication that we have, because it is directly to our own integrity before we even learn to speak. Miguel: But you listen, and when they say, “Look what I`ve done with my life, I`ve done this and this and that,” and you see that it worked for these people, you mustn`t believe them, but if you listen, you`ll apply it in your own life, because you can become the best thing you can compare not only to another person, but to many other people, many other people, because there are seven billion people on this beautiful planet Earth who live right now, but there are so many others who live before and no longer live, but they bring all these great ideas that if we listen or read what they have in their books that will lead us to do something new that will lead us to do something new. Something, perhaps, much better than what they did. It`s not like we`re competing. It is that we listen to what they say, we reject what we do not agree, and we only hold what we agree, and in this way we become better, better and better. Miguel: That`s right, that`s right.

You can see the most beautiful rose and write a whole book about this rose, and with all this book, you wouldn`t even describe… In fact, you have the rose, you got it. You have nothing to say. You know that, and this rose is the truth. All the descriptions you write about the rose are just your point of view. It`s not true. This podcast is only used for educational purposes. The host assumes no responsibility to a natural or legal person for any liability, loss or damage caused or caused directly or indirectly by the use, application or interpretation of the information presented in it. Peter: It`s beautiful. Katie Byron, who is also in this podcast, talks about her four questions, and her second question is, “How do I know it`s true?” And that seems to be a very relevant question.

If you say, “I`m ugly” or “I`m weak.” It`s true? You could even say, “Yes, I probably think that`s true” because they were convinced. They were domesticated. It`s your belief system. The following question: “How do I know this is true?” Help you challenge this next hypothesis. Peter: That`s good. The fourth agreement, the last agreement: always do your best. We love to hear from you! Email us [email protected] or tweet us @jolentag, @kristenmeinzer or @bythebookpod. And if you haven`t, join our Facebook By The Book community! Peter: That`s right.

Let`s end this beautiful image and this vision. We have Don Miguel Ruiz with us. The four chords are his book, A Practical Guide to Staff Freedom. Miguel, it`s such a pleasure to have you on the bregman leadership podcast. Thank you for joining us. Peter: If you`re a small child, if you`re two, three, four years old, it`s a matter of life and death, which means that if I take away my love for my child, they need it to survive, so it`s not just an opinion that goes with a punishment or a reward; It`s really a matter of life and death.